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Re: Real Experiences

lot49a — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:44:17 -0000

Muir

Re: Real Experiences

Eden — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:55:06 -0000

Haha anyone I know? Was this in FYP?

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lot49a — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:31:44 -0000

I think that he was limiting himself to being kind of a dick to 1st year students.

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Jon — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:57:09 -0000

Einstein or Darwin doesn't quality for being as intelligent as Plato? Is this prof insane? Was he limiting himself to "philosophy" writing?

Re: Real Experiences

lot49a — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:48:32 -0000

"Golden ageism" maybe? "Young whipper-snapperism"?

Honestly I kind of end up feeling guilty when preposterous "THE NEW MEDIA IS KILLING US" arguments get raised. It's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. I mean, the rate of introduction of new media is now fast enough that most of us can recall from our own childhood things that were going to tear civilization apart that for some reason didn't.

I remember in university, one of my profs arguing that civilization and culture was in clear decline because no one had produced anything as intelligent as Plato in recent times. I remember, vainly, trying to explain that comparing Plato to [random modern text] was insane. Plato is a pinnacle of ancient achievement that has survived a test of millenia. [random modern text] hasn't even been tried. Plato had many contemporaries and very few of them have made it this far. Likewise, we can rightly expect that the overwhelming majority of current human thought, speech and writing will be lost thousands of years from now.

Re: Real Experiences

Jon — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:28:45 -0000

I think this new contraption called the "printing press" is going to lead to the downfall of civilization. Kids will no longer bother to learn how to write: these machines will do it all for them! The problem isn't just with amateurs: highly gifted calligraphists will be out of work, and the world will feel barren without their lovely art form.

Re: Real Experiences

Jon — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:08:33 -0000

This is probably a first-year quality answer, but "reality" is just a simulation in our brain, fed by input from the senses. Optical illusions are fun and make this fact very clear.

People seem to fall into the trap of old vs new: video games are "simulated experiences", but books somehow aren't. Text messaging is ruining the language, but the printing press was glorious for it. Is there a word for this kind of fallacy?

Re: Real Experiences

Eden — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:45:46 -0000

Man why is everyone being mean to SATC lately?

But yeah. Though I didn't find all that much hand-wringing among philosophers - most seemed genuinely willing to consider that a perfect simulation of an authentic experience just IS an authentic experience.